"I'm really sorry man, so many smart peeps argue stat-quo logic that I feel guilty correcting it..."
[Ed note:] the full convo is at...
http://hiphopcanada.com/_site/community/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=20552
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I'm really sorry man, so many smart peeps argue stat-quo logic that I feel guilty correcting it, I'd rather just do it in my art, but I gotta say your math is fuzzy...
1) If "war" works to boost economies than it needs to take a while: the 3-day invasion of Panama in 1989 didn't do squat.
However, that doesn't matter anyway, as this Administration has absolutely no interest in improving the economy - save for repeating "the growing economy" in front of cameras. Look up Paul Krugman at the NY Times, he and every other economist worth his salt will say that going from a $5 trln Clinton-surplus to a $7 trln Bush-debt is a bad idea... and there's a million more arguments.
But the proof is in the actions: he's "staying the course" to hell, just like with everything else, and dragging the nation down with him. Your "Nazi" examples are no coincidence: once massive social instability is achieved then Fascism will be easy to implement: a freaked-out population will always look to the government for protection - and these are Patriot Act I, II, and III guys. C'mon: after 5 years of lies, can they be trusted?
I'm amazed that the world takes what they say "straight" anymore - this is the control of the mass media, but if you just step back and think about it: have they ever said ***ANYTHING**** that was "true"? What's their batting average? You can't just look at what's being said, look at what's happening: "we condemn torture" (no you don't), "we're making progress" (no you're not), and on and on...
2) Winning the "war" now and installing a "real" democracy would prove great - even Vietnam forgave the U.S. after 3mm were tortured and killed, resumed normal relations, and are doing alright now. Iraq's a little trickier, the torture stuff is really ruining their rep in the Middle-East, but it's just like dealing with a bully without any friends: they'd chill out, and wouldn't be able to "pull a Chavez" now that 14 U.S. bases are built there - and btw, the war won't stop until construction is completed: how long did the Skydome take?
Again, the army's always been the "$1000 toilet-seat" type, but incompetence and corruption on this scale is unreal, especially when they've been repeatedly and publicly called out for it - the whole world knows, whether we know or not, as their media will report what ours doesn't about us with less fear of reprisal.
When Rumsfeld holds a press conference to brazenly announce that "3" out of 100 Iraqi army divisions are trained so far in A YEAR, and "there's different ways of looking at it" (Jon Stewart crack'd on him good), then you have to ask yourself: what are they trying to sell us here? Why are they trying to break our intellectual will so we don't call them out? Who are they training to justify that as "progress"?
It's brilliantly complicated... we don't live in a "binary" world, so no one argument is a trump card: sometimes they lie, sometimes they tell the truth as a result of a tonne of lies and go "oops!" - on purpose, and when we accept it we get weaker as a society that should demand accountability from our leaders.
If you go thru my stuff you'll see I've figured out a lot of it over the last year, and I won't take all the credit: I've had to sift through a tonne of info.
Great flick to check if you have a minute that could save the world:
Martial Law 9/11: Rise Of The Police State (2005)
http://www.archive.org/details/MartialLaw911
and it has a companion site with "mainstream" nuggets of truth:
Welcome to the MARTIAL LAW 911: RISE OF THE POLICE STATE Information Resource Companion Web Site.
http://www.martiallaw911.info/index.htm
Don't front: I actually goaded a Republican into watching it and he ran screaming from the meat of the matter. Most of those Rovebots couldn't or wouldn't touch it, their "Talking Point" arguments are incredibly flimsy - but catchy. You can see the results here:
http://politicalroundtable.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=91483#91483
Anyway, enough fresh game, I'll let one of my songs take it home...
...and I wrote the mofo in January.
(sigh)
"It's the dawn:
Of the neo-con...
Spawn:
Of a hellish-bond...
Church, state, and biz:
Nazi-kids, of an older-God...
That's:
Why we in the streets!!!
That's:
Why we ridin' beats!!!
'Cause-
Next these motherfuckers-
Takin':
Rosa Parks seat!!!"
- Black Krishna, "Chokin' on Chomsky"
Peace, (NOW!!!)
BK
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P.S. A friend sent me a great quote in response to me pimpin' the flick...
"Cowardice asks the question - is it safe? Expediency asks the question - is it politic? Vanity asks the question - is it popular? But conscience asks the question - is it right? And there comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular; but one must take it because it is right."
- Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
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